The Lectures of Mortimer Shy: My Main Topic: "The Thought of the Past"

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February 07, 2006

My Main Topic: "The Thought of the Past"

Given the opportunity, I will always give the same speech. I will summon the topic left out of the million haphazard discussions in life, and using all my accumulated repartee, using any indirect tactic or leaning on any fortuitous association, happily rail non-stop. I am unchecked. It’s like there is some unfed beast, or imprisoned old man kept in the cellar; and given the freedom I will open the cellar door and let this other life into the kitchen--where we can discuss what he is, why he is starving, and how to reconcile him.

It is the main subject, the big speech I was giving Theo the other night, when my wife and Diane were in the other room looking at her paintings. I should set this scene just a little, before I shock another audience, this time of untold numbers. This big speech where I had Theo pretty well trapped in the kitchen, between me and the threat of the cellar door, it seemed. This is the speech in which I reveal the base of my thinking. It is about how the thought of the past has nothing to do with time. Sounds contradictory on the face of it--but the more you think about it you have to question: where did this association arise between time and the idea of the past?

I was about five years old when I set my mind on solving this dilemma, and not only haven't I solved it--but the dilemma is becoming . . . more explicit. But I say that all people have a thought of the past first, before they know almost anything, like a breathless commentary supposed in their fragile awareness, and put it up as a promise for long adventure, a poetic life. They think it up, the category of the past, and then try to fill it in. Nature itself seems old. Thought itself has this complex origin, and retains this structure. When the schoolboy hears about History, he figures at first and innocently that is the same thing, or close enough. He doesn’t suspect it has been co-opted by some opposing theory, about how it is just there as a result of passing clock-time. For what does time have to do with the first sense of history? I say nothing--if I get the chance to speak.

“History is right before us, like the sequel / In the story of fabulous rare exhaustion... ” (The Modern Epoch, E. Williams, 1986) The past is visible in the yard, from my perch in the tree, through the very medium of the air. The first task a child has is looking back, like into the origins of a mystery. For we are in a mystery; is there some doubt about that? Or do you think the great arbitrator of hard science is about to clear everything up? People get literally smothered out, and forget their original idea. The details, old books, cathedrals, get moved from one category to another! But you had the thought of categorical difference! Many things in the history of the world seem to belong there, all the stranger things are immediately invited up from the cellar! There are old men with crutches living down there, and also an tunnel that connects with the old subway, and out onto the meadows. Like in that movie I saw . . . or that dream I had. Believe me, I don’t just make this stuff up. And if anything miraculous was historical, it would have to be truth. Repeat: if the past has a miracle, or six or seven, in it, it must be truth. The third time is the charm: miracles are going on in the present all the time, it is just the past we have prohibited them from. But you didn’t imagine it. You got the category of this “past”, just sitting in a tree, or marching through the intersection, and glancing back at the world. The thought of the past came before the revelatory content that fills it up. And incredibly . . . still does.

Why am I so sure of this, when I can’t get a single other person to agree with me on it? Oh, I get small victories; I get looks, even looks of pity. Talking with Theo it seemed he must see at least that I had this sustaining conviction of my source in remembered sequence from my childhood. Yea, maybe that’s the way you remember life, but memory is faulty, I think he finally said. Well, my wife, she understands me! at least while I am talking to her; and from the application I have made of this thinking in my writing--which could go either way in a defense, like at that trial I attended in my novel, Alien Construct. My wife and I are all tangled up in a number of fidelities. She might believe me as a matter of faith, or as a kind of investment in eternity. She doesn't appear to require this truth as badly as I do, though.

But I am not quite done with it. This thought of the past is a deduction, made from being in the world; it isn’t an abstract notion, or a fanciful imposition come up with out of the blue and then put upon reality, at all--but it is a childish opinion, an idea gained from experience, brought about by staring at the world: that this place has a secret, something it is not telling us--which is as good as saying: a history. It is the extension of a personal concern about being in a mystery. And the first aspect given to that mystery: that it is not revealing of the whole story.

And is not about to reveal itself, like in some philosophy class, or by the gross analogy with the passage of time. This other story does not immediately locate itself anywhere in time. It could, for all the naive, mystery-ridden, observer knows, be a matter of location, like maybe the solution is just over the horizon; maybe it requires a shift of focus, or another thought! It is not given that the secret history of the world is impossible to find. But it is also an immediate impression of the world that it (the world) is a totality. How is that! A totality that excludes the truth? Well this just creates unbelievable interest and tension in life. This is my big speech I always give--when given the chance.

People just let me say this for them, I think. They are afraid of being arrested or something. But I have everyone’s attention: so I can state it simply. It’s that one gets the first idea of history itself from the place. And if we look at the content of this idea, this deduction from looking at the world, we can see it is not the idea of time. The idea of time comes from other experiences entirely, I venture to say . . .

Posted by mortimer at February 7, 2006 06:46 PM

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Surely time only exists in the present moment, in the presence of a checkable clock. After that, well it's all just transient and flashbacky.

Posted by: stephenesque at February 8, 2006 11:29 AM

Sir Esque. Whatever time is, it is not the Main Topic here. It is that other thing, often called "the past". Please re-read.

Posted by: Mortimer Shy at February 8, 2006 03:09 PM

Please forgive me it's past 4 am and I am deliriously tired, and I'm probably way off base here.

To me the thought of the past has more to do with the experiencing of an outside or sometimes internal stimulus, which is ususally caused by some form of outside stimuli. An action or occurance which triggers the thought of a past experience.
Like today I was reading a thread on a message board about firearms, and it made me recall the several canoe trips taken by myself, my Father and Grand Father when I was a youth. We would take two 22 gauge rifles and canoe for four hours or so down the Chemung river, spent either fishing or target shooting at random objects. I don't think I would have thought about that if I hadn't read that thread. At least I know I haven't thought of those trips in as long as I can remember.

Now Mortimer I have a question. Now lets say at sometime in my past something memorable had occured to me and I happened to glance at my watch and noticed it was 11:37 pm in the instant before said occurance happened. So the time was "burned into my memory" with the memorable occurance.
So now any time I look at a clock and see that specific time (11:37 pm) the memory pops into my head. Have I then merged the past with time???

Posted by: The voice of reason at February 9, 2006 04:43 AM

But the past is merely used and unwanted time.

Posted by: stephenesque at February 9, 2006 02:35 PM

I don't how I can make it clearer that this is about the origin of the idea of history. Not time as known from experience. The above comments seem obsessed with redirecting this into a discussion of Time. The whole point is that History--not memory, flexible and time-laden as memory is, and not "unwanted time", whatever that is, comes to a person as a THOUGHT. Initially without reference to time at all.

Posted by: Mortimer Shy at February 9, 2006 07:37 PM

Morty baby, I agree with this statement, ( The whole point is that History--not memory, flexible and time-laden as memory is, and not "unwanted time", whatever that is, comes to a person as a THOUGHT. Initially without reference to time at all. ) however I am obsessed with time so get off my back...

Posted by: The Voice Of Reason at February 10, 2006 06:11 PM

Well I think I finally understand your view of the past!
It doesn't really seem possible that the existence of the past is deduced from the existence of time--that strikes me as clear. But unlike you, I don't really have a vivid memory of being first confronted with the notion of history, of discovering that notion in thought, without knowing anything about history as it is taught to us in school and books. It does seem reasonable to me that this has happened, though, and that I have forgotten it somehow--maybe this is something that almost everyone forgets, and your case is different because you remember it.
It is a fantastic notion, regardless--that the idea of the past is built into us, as one of our a priori categories of thought, and that we are to fill it in.

Posted by: Phillip at February 10, 2006 07:59 PM

Please forgive my molasses paced understanding and try to explain this one more time. I have a vague idea of what you are trying to explain but would like more clarification on the notion of how history would come without a reference to time at all...

Does that mean that if as a child I saw an old object and realized it was old without anyone telling me this it would be an example of what you propose?

Posted by: rannva at February 12, 2006 12:58 AM

I think it is important to point out that what is being discussed here is not one's own past (one's "personal past," you could say), but "The Past" in terms of the world itself – the History of the World, in other words. What Mortimer is saying is that anyone who is present in the world can tell through observation and experience that the world has a past – a mysterious "secret" that we may never know, but which fascinates us. And we feel the presence and fact of that past instinctively, before we understand anything about "time" necessarily.

Posted by: Bobby at February 12, 2006 11:03 AM

As a stubborn swine, I still cling to my original reading. Besides, time is so much more interesting than history - so, Mortimer, stick that where the HG Wells don't shine!
BTW - unwanted time is the past that people are not trying to live in.

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